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Interview of Position Holder Students in Intermediate Exams 2006

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KPDC: Please introduce yourself and tell us about your achievements?

Mohammad Hassam: I have secured 2nd Position in Intermediate, Pre-Engineering group. I used to study throughout the year and I believe this led me to success. I gave equal time to each subject. As the examination days came closer, I devoted more time to studies and Almighty ALLAH helped me to get this position.

Usaid Arif: I am from Commecs Institute of Business and Emerging Sciences and I got 2nd Position in Intermediate, Commerce group. It was due to my parents’ efforts and my teachers’ guidance which motivated me for hard work and foremost, by the grace of Almighty ALLAH. These are the reasons behind this success of mine; otherwise I don’t think I could have achieved it.

Hiba Asad: I am from St. Joseph’s Girls College. I have earned 3rd position in Intermediate, Pre-Medical group. In my opinion, studies are relatively easier up to Matriculation but at Intermediate level, it’s more difficult. My parents and my teachers encouraged me to reach here a lot. It was just hard work and first of all grace of my ALLAH who bestowed this success upon me. It was not in my mind that I am going to get a position. It just happened and I can only say that I worked very hard.

Fahima Farooq Advani: I belong to Commecs Institute of Business and Emerging Sciences and secured 1st position in Intermediate, Commerce group. I believe that nothing is un-attainable if you work hard for it. I aimed at getting position and by the grace of Almighty ALLAH and with the help of my teachers, I got it. ALLAH has given 24 hours to everyone whether an average or an intelligent student. If we manage our time properly, give quality hours to our studies and work properly according to our target, we can obtain it.

Wajida Mazhar: I am from St. Joseph Girl’s College and I secured 4th position in Intermediate, Pre-Medical group. I would like to thank Almighty ALLAH and then my parents for their steady support and then my whole family. I always believed in conceptual studies rather than rote learning the text. I also believe that if you have a clear concept of whatever you study, you’ll not have any problems in the exams.

Fajar Baqar: I got 6th position in Intermediate, Pre-Medical group and am from St. Joseph College. I would like to thank Almighty ALLAH and then my parents and teachers. I want to say that concentration and concept is the main thing. In other words one must have idea about what he or she wants to do in the future.

Madiha Kanwal: I secured 1st Position in Intermediate, Pre-Medical group. I am from Karachi Intermediate College, Gulshan-e-Hadeed. The only thing I want to say about my success is that any success can be obtained only through hard work.

Rabia Anwar: I am from DA College for Women. I secured 2nd Position in Intermediate, Pre-Medical group. I would like to say that proper time management and persistent hard work is behind my success. I would like to thank my parents and teachers on this achievement. I did my O’ level and then I switched to H.S.C. It was a challenge for me because there is a huge difference between the two systems but I worked hard and I am very happy to attain this position.

Saira Bano: I am from Zubair Public Higher Secondary School. I got 1st position in Intermediate, Humanities group. My parents and teachers supported me throughout and the only thing I did was to work hard.

Sundus Yahya: I am from D.A. College and I earned 3rd position in H.S.C., General Science group. Almighty ALLAH helped me and then my teachers and my parents supported me to reach this success. Of course nothing can be accomplished unless we work hard, so I also worked very hard to earn this position.

Musfirah Ahsan: I am from D.A. College. I got 5th position in H.S.C, General Science group. I was never a book-worm. But I worked hard, and believed that because I am working hard so the success will be with me. This belief, I think, enabled me to achieve success.

Sadaf Anwar Jaffery: I am from D.A. College and secured 3rd position in H.S.C., Humanities group. I would say that my success is not merely because of my hard work. It’s more because of my prayers to Almighty ALLAH and my parent’s help, guidance of my teachers and also support of my friends.

Syeda Anam: I am from St. Joseph College for Women. I got 4th position in Pre-Engineering group. My father supported me a lot and he encouraged me all the way and I would like to thank him and of course I am extremely thankful to Almighty ALLAH on this achievement.

Shanza Waqar: I am from St. Joseph College for Women. I secured 2nd position in Intermediate, Pre-Medical group. I think success is not easy, it’s definitely difficult but when you have concentration on future goals, then it becomes a bit easier. Almighty ALLAH is always there to help me and then my parents and teachers supported me and they believed that I can get a position, although I wasn’t expecting it.

Muzna Kazi: I am from B.A.M.M. P.E.C.H.S. College for Women. I secured 5th position in Humanities group. I would like to thank Almighty ALLAH for this position. I believe that this success is because of the prayers of my parents and grand parents.

Iffat Gul Shirazi: I am from B.A.M.M. P.E.C.H.S. Govt. College for Women. I got 6th position in Humanities group. I did my O’level and then switched to Intermediate which is quite different. But my success key is that I never settle for mediocrity and always go for the best. In Intermediate (humanity group) there are no notes available. No coaching centres offer tuitions as such. We had to do things on our own and our teachers really helped us a lot.

Hina Hussain: I am from Sir Syed Government Girls College. I secured 1st position in B.C.S (Hon.). This success is because of our teachers. They worked hard for us. Then I would like to thank my parents who gave me all the support I needed.

Zubash Shabbir: I am from Sir Syed Girls College and I secured 2nd position in B.C.S (Hon.). I am very thankful to Almighty ALLAH who gave me this success. I would like to thank my parents for their continuous support and my teachers for their guidance.

Shazia Majeed: I am from Sir Syed Gov. Girls College and I have secured 3rd position in B.C.S (Hon.). I want to say thanks to Almighty ALLAH and then my parents and my teachers.

KPDC: How do you see the tuition system? What importance do you give to ‘time management’ for getting success in exams?

Muhammad Hassam: I feel we need to use our time properly. We should not start studies a month or two before the examinations. Instead, we need to study throughout the academic year. I believe this is what leads to the success in examinations. We should manage our time, make time-tables and make sure to act upon these time-tables.

As far as tuition is concerned, I think there is nothing wrong in taking tuitions if anyone needs it.

Usaid Arif: I don’t believe in the time-management that much and I have never been a regular study doer. I just worked hard for every test and exam like I was preparing for the final examinations. During the exams, I only used to sleep about 3-4 hours and studied most of the time. Hence, I did all my preparations and hard work at the end. I studied hard for the tests and did my assignments well and that’s what paid up in the end as I just had to revise lessons at the time of final exams.

As far as the tuitions are concerned, my college was great and I never took tuitions except for Accounting as it was a scoring subject and I had to score maximum in it also because I was up to do Chartered Accountancy. I don’t think taking tuitions is a bad thing, especially for students who are studying in government colleges have to take tuitions because everyone knows the culture of our government colleges. I prefer tuitions and I think tuitions are good for the students to improve their abilities and also for their professional learning.

Wajida Mazhar: I think tuitions are important especially for the government college’s students because I have done FSC from the government college and I know the environment there was not very encouraging for the studies. Therefore, students need to go for the tuitions. But the lack of interest is also shown on the part of students. They don’t take interest in lectures; most of the science students only come to the colleges to attend the practicals sessions. Therefore, the problem lies on the both sides, i.e. the students and the teachers.

Fahima Farooq Advani: I think time management is an essential thing. We ought to make sure that every moment of our time is used in the most productive way. We also need to give some part of our time to the extra-curricular activities because it is important too.

As far as the tuitions are concerned, I think if we pay complete attention in our classes, we can understand to a greater extent. Thus we would not need to take any extra tuition.

Fajar Baqar: I believe that tuitions are important for those students who can not pick the lessons well at colleges. So they need to take tuitions. Specially, students of government colleges are very much in the need of tuitions because their colleges do not provide them with required academic environment.

As for time management, I am of the opinion that time should be consumed in productive activities and one should not waste any part of his time. As students, we should consume our quality time in studies.
Madiha Kanwal: About tuitions, I think it depends upon the caliber of the student, if he or she is capable enough to understand the topic at class; he has no need to take tuitions. On the other hand, our teachers at the government colleges do not fulfill their responsibilities honestly; therefore the students need to take tuitions.

As far as time-management is concerned, I think it’s very important for success at every level.

Rabia Anwar: I think time-management is essential for every person, if he or she wants to be successful in any field. Every person has 24 hours to spend. The one, who manages his time properly, can make best use of his time and gets successful.

I believe that tuitions are good for the students, when they require it. It’s totally up to the students how they see it.

Saira Bano: In my opinion, there is no need to take any tuition, as long as the students study with the required concentration at colleges. It’s up to the brilliance of the students how they pick the lectures taught in the classes.

I believe that most of the students don’t follow time-management which is not a very good thing. We should manage our time properly so that we can make most use of it.

Sundus Yahya: Time-management is crucial for success in any field. It’s important that we make maximum use of our time and that’s what leads us to the success. Specially, for students I think time-management is very significant.

About tuitions, I would like to say that the situation of our education system especially in the government colleges is so pathetic that the students need to take tuitions as they don’t have any other option.

Musfirah Ahsan: I don’t think time-management needs to be followed always. If someone works hard, he can be successful. It’s all about working hard and giving quality time to your studies or any other activity.

Tuitions can be avoided, if the students concentrate hard in the class. If we pay complete attention during the lectures in classes, we will not need to go for any extra coaching.

Sadaf Anwar Jaffrey: I think time management is vital. We need to make sure that every moment of our time is used in productive activities. We do need to fix some part of our time for the extra-curricular activities, as it is important too.

As far as the tuitions are concerned, I think if we pay complete attention in our classes, we can understand the topics to a fuller extent. Thus there will be no need to take tuitions and we can also save the money which we spend on these extra coaching.

Syeda Anam: I think it depends upon the caliber of the student and the amount of efforts he put into studies. If he or she is able to get the topic at class; he has no need to take tuitions. Having said this, most of our teachers at the government colleges are not playing their role sincerely; which also leaves the student with no option other than going for private tuitions.

As for the time-management is concerned, I think it’s very important for success at every level. Managing time is what makes a person successful and the one who wastes time in non-productive activities, never gets success.

Shanza Waqar: I think tuitions are important specially for the government colleges’ students but the students also don’t pay enough concentration in their classes. If the students don’t pay required attention at the college or school, they certainly need to take tuitions.

Muzna Kazi: I think tuitions are very important at least for the Intermediate level. They help students with extra teaching and also polish their skills.

As far as the time-management is concerned, I think it’s always good to mange time. Time-tables can be followed to get the maximum output from the time available to us.

Iffat Gul Shirazi: I feel that tuitions can be taken to enhance one’s knowledge and there is no harm in it.

I would also like to add that time-management needs to be followed to make maximum use of our time.

Hina Hussain: I believe everyone needs to manage his or her time in a proper way. Specially for the students, I think they should follow the time-table for their studies so that they can give proper attention to their studies.

I am of the opinion that tuitions can be avoided if the students study the curricula books with complete concentration and pay enough attention in the class during the lectures.

Zubash Shabbir: Time-management is crucial for success. I follow it and I think everyone should do the same. We have to make sure that we are using our time in the most advantageous method.

About tuitions, I would say that the education system in our country needs to be taken care of seriously. As in most of the government colleges, teachers don’t fulfill their responsibilities and they prefer to teach at their private coaching centres. As a result, students rely on taking tuitions.

Shazia Majeed: I feel we need to use our time properly. I believe this is what leads to the success in examinations or in any other field. We should manage our time and make sure to act upon time-tables.

Tuitions can be avoided, if the students concentrate hard in the class. If we pay complete attention during the lectures in classes, we will not need to go for any extra coaching.

Hina Hussain: I have never maintained any time-table and I never tried for time-management. When I used to start studies, I never tried to realize for how long I had been studying. I have not taken any tuitions in my bachelors and took position in B.C.S (Hon.), but I do believe that tuitions are very important at Intermediate level.

Zubash Shabbir: I believe time management is a very important thing but most of us don’t care about that. We should manage our time properly; it leaves us better chances of success.

As far tuitions are concerned, they are very important at Intermediate level but I have not taken tuitions for my B.C.S and still managed to secure a position. Thus, it’s up to the student’s caliber, how good he learns at school or college.

KPDC: Do you think short courses can be an alternative to the degree programs?

Hiba Asad: Short courses may be helpful to an extent and people might be lucky enough to get a job and you might learn something in three months but the program that is offered in the university , for instance 2-3 years, provide you with a better environment where you can develop and polish your skills, also the material you get there will give you a lot of knowledge than that of a short course..

Muhammad Hassam: I think they are affective for some people like those who have done diploma, when they take short courses, they might be beneficial for them but short courses can not take the place of degree programs. Degree programs have great values whereas short courses have little benefits.

Fahima Farooq Advani: I will say that along with the degree programs, short courses or diploma can also be done because they will add to your knowledge but these courses can not be alternative to the degree courses.

Wajida Mazhar: I don’t know much about the short courses. They might be good to some extent and you might find a job with handsome salary but they certainly can not be an alternative to the degree courses.

Fajar Baqar: Short courses can not take place of degree programs. We, as students, need perfection and degree programs give us that unlike short courses which are just short cuts to learning skills. As far as I am concerned I would go for degree program rather than a short course.

Madiha Kanwal: I would say that if you are doing short courses beside degree program, it’s all right, but if you prefer short courses over degree program, I don’t think it’s the right thing. When you spend 4-5 years in a university, your skills and personality are groomed. Everybody would like a short-cut but it’s not the best thing to do.

Rabia Anwar: I wouldn’t say that short courses are not good. If someone, rather than going for a degree program, chooses a certain course according to his or her interest, there is nothing wrong in it if he or she is satisfied with the amount of knowledge he is getting through it.

Saira Bano: I think short courses are helpful, but we can’t say that this will give us all that we want and we can’t compare it with a degree program either. However, it’s good for those who can not give much time to a certain field so they go for short courses.

Sundus Yahya: I don’t think short courses can be an alternative to a degree program because the experience that you can get in a degree program you can’t have it in a short course. When it comes to do a job, the one with a degree program can deliver more than a person who has done a short course.

Musfirah Ahsan: I believe that short courses only seem to be good enough when you are at study level but when you come to the job market, candidate with degree programs are preferred everywhere over a short-course holder.

Sadaf Anwar Jaffery: I don’t know much about the short courses, but I believe they might be useful for those deserving students who can not afford to get admission in universities, so they can get as much knowledge as they can through these courses. I also feel that you can go for a short course for extra knowledge as well.

Syeda Anam: Short courses can not be an alternative for a degree program. They might get a student job. But a student who is doing a complete program of 2 or 4 years has better opportunities to get maximum knowledge as compare to the one who is doing a course of 2 or 3 months.

Muzna Kazi: I think short courses are affective but you can’t compare it with the degree level. At degree program a student gets much more experience and it helps in personality grooming. I think it’s better if one completes a degree program and then goes for a short course.

Hina Hussain: Short courses can never be an alternative to the degree program. Education is not just about learning but it’s about the growth of the whole personality. When you are at university, you have to learn how to manage things, you involve in extra-curricular activities, your social skills develop, you know how to interact with the people, how to face difficulties and how to accomplish a certain task. Therefore, degree programs give student a full personality growth as compare to a short course.

Shazia Majeed: Short courses can be helpful but it can’t take place of a degree program. For example if a pre-medical student needs to have some knowledge of computer, he will not go for BCS or BS, he will go for a short course like MS Office etc. In this case, short courses are quite beneficial.

Zubash Shabbir: Short courses can give you preliminary information but not deep knowledge, therefore, a degree holder knows much more than a diploma holder. Short courses are helpful but you can’t compare it with any degree programs.

KPDC: Is our examination system well enough to discourage students for cheating during exams? What suggestion would you give to Government to make it better? Also share your comments about the five-year papers?

Muhammad Hassam: I feel that the paper should be of objective type so that the student must study the whole book thoroughly. Whereas, in our current system, the students know with the help of the five-year papers which questions are going to come next year and they don’t need to study the whole book. I don’t think five-year papers should be followed because that gives students an opportunity of selective studies. The examination pattern should be changed for every year. As far as the combined examination of 11th and 12th is concerned, I think that’s not a right decision. It will be quite tough for the students to prepare for the 12 papers at one time.

Hiba Asad: I would say that the syllabus needs to be changed completely. It’s so out-dated that our parents say that they used to follow the same books. It should be modified. By cheating and by following five-years papers, students might get passed, but they will never get the internal satisfaction and at some stage of life they will be caught.

About the examination system, I would say that papers should be prepared on conceptual basis and it should be more logical. Paper should be only 50% subjective and other 50% of it should include objectives and MCQs.

Fahima Farooq Advani: As regards the cheating, when we get the admit card, it is written on it that anyone who is caught doing cheating, his admit card will be taken away. But the problem in our country is that rules and systems are made but they are not imposed. Moreover, education system should be on semester basis and MCQs and short question-answers should be included in the examination papers.

Wajida Mazhar: Five-years papers are good but students should not completely rely upon them. With the help of five-years papers, you know the pattern of the examination which helps students a lot.

About examination paper, I believe that 50% should be objective and 50% should be subjective because it will reduce the need of rote learning and student will need to do conceptual studies more.

Fajar Baqar: I think our examination system makes students follow rote learning. I am also in favour of MCQs and objective questions.

As far as the cheating is concerned, I think some students have a habit to cheat but they should be taught that cheating is a bad habit and one can’t achieve anything with cheating.

As far as the five-years papers are concerned, they make our studies selective and we can’t make our concept clear and this is the negative aspect of following five-years papers.

Madiha Kanwal: I feel that five-years papers are essential because these papers enable us to know the pattern of the paper, how the questions will come and how to answer them.

About the syllabus, I think it’s very out-dated and needs to be modified. Another thing I would like to say here is that rote learning is also important in our examination system.

Rabia Anwar: I believe that five-years papers are there to get help from, but using it as an alternative of the book is wrong.

Regarding the syllabus, it should be updated specially the English curriculum needs to be changed, as it has no standard at all.

Saira Bano: For cheating, I’ll only say that it’s our personal responsibility that we don’t do that, because we should be aware of that cheating is a crime. If everyone feels responsibility and corrects his approach, there is no need of any system to prevent cheating.

As regards to the five-years papers, I think there is no harm in using it to know the pattern but if you follow this for your preparation of the examination it restricts your learning as you only try to cover the course to the extent which enables you to get pass, as a result, we don’t go through the whole book which is unfortunate.

Sundus Yahya: I think cheating is common in our system and the examiners are paid for helping the students in cheating. This system needs to be changed and teachers should act more responsibly.

About five-years papers, I believe the papers are good to know the pattern but following this for the preparation of exams is not the right use of it.

I must say that our syllabus is completely outmoded and it needs to be changed to a great extent.

Musfirah Ahsan: I don’t think the problem is with five-year papers or teachers. It’s the system that creates problems. There is no logic we find it in our curricula books. Most of the books have not been updated, thus, the students are provided with the obsoleted and insufficient knowledge through these books.

As far as cheating is concerned, I think everyone does it if he or she gets chance, even I do that for confirming my answers.

Sadaf Anwar Jaffery: It seems to me that we can not cover the topic of cheating in few lines. It’s a very debatable topic and everyone does it to some extent, at least I think so.

As far the five-years papers are concerned, I feel that in O-Level, there is no concept of five-years papers, but here in Intermediate system, everyone believes that if you learn from the five-years papers you’ll get pass. The reason being that the questions are repeated after every 2 or 3 years. I didn’t follow Five-year papers, because it restricts your learning abilities.

Syeda Anam: I must say that our syllabus is totally obsolete. I feel very embarrassing to be a Pakistani when I look at our syllabus. I read in an article that a foreign analyst said that the education system in Pakistan doesn’t polish the skills of the students, thus, the Indian students are being preferred over Pakistani students. We, as students, should get together on a platform to make efforts to improve our education system. I would also disagree with the idea of combined examinations of class 9 and 10.

Shanza Waqar: I think that our syllabus, apart from the science subjects, demands completely rote learning. The standard of English, Urdu, Pakistan Studies is very pathetic and anyone can guess the next year’s paper without trying hard, since the papers are prepared on the basis of Five-years papers.

Muzna Kazi: I would also agree that five-years papers are helpful for having idea of the paper pattern but the pattern should be changed after sometime. Otherwise, what is happening now is that students follow the five-years papers and they don’t get into the bother of going through the whole syllabus and they are still able to get through the exams. That’s why I believe the pattern of the examination should be changed at regular intervals.

I am of the opinion that cheating is now a bit difficult to do but those who have this habit and they are expert at it, are able to do it somehow.

Iffat Gul Shirazi: I feel that the questions should be changed every year. The paper should be made in a challenging way to test the basic knowledge of the students.

About five-years papers, I think there should be no such thing, and students should learn the whole syllabus.

Hina Hussain: Five-years papers should only be used to know the pattern and distribution of the marks and should not be used to get for the preparation of exams. I learned the whole book rather than looking at the five-years.

Shazia Majeed: I think up to Intermediate level, we can prepare for the exams from the five-years papers, but at degree-level, you don’t get that much help from them. Consequently, the students get confused, they follow the five-years papers to prepare for the exams. I get the impression that our teachers also get help from the five-years papers because they themselves advice their students to follow the papers.

Zubash Shabbir: If the five-years papers are followed to have an idea about the paper pattern, I think there is no harm in it, but one can’t prepare from these papers for the examinations. It leaves you helpless if the paper doesn’t come according to them. It’s better for us from every aspect that we learn the whole book.

 

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